Don't you think goth boys are just wee chancers, papping on the eyeliner and all that so they can nab a nice young gothic chick ?

I had a mate who's wee brother was sort of like that, he made a pact with his inner demons when he was 17 to kill himself when he was 27 to be like that Kurt Cocaine or something.

A good 10 years too late if you ask me.

I mean, fair enough if it's legit but too many of them seem to be so 'tortured' that they fanny about on skateboards and carry on with their mates on high streets in the middle of blazing hot summers days.

Surely that much physical exersion and coming out in such conditions is the very antithesis of the gothic way ?

By Karl on Sunday, June 3, 2001 - 07:51 pm:

LOL

By Paige on Sunday, June 3, 2001 - 11:36 pm:

All of those kids think that they're going so against the grain, being so non-conformist etc. Really all they're doing is conforming to a different standard. Attention seekers. A lot of times, they're just too big of losers to get any respect in any other group so I've noticed at concerts. Real tortured souls keep it to themselves damnit. You can't just slap eyeliner on and declare yourself a creature of the night! Or you have to have a raging drug problem or something...

The real goths I've met I like actually. Because they're not full of shit. Generally very nice people too.

By Skrooie on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 01:50 am:

Oh yes, don't get me wrong, the true goth is a rare creature and one which which should be handled with care and respect, but these wee bums with the eyeliner...how *can* you be tortured at 10 when you're a boy ? You're into footie, breaking things and pulling girls hair in the playground.

The only thing troubling those wee bastards is the thought of having to do their homework on time, the scumbags.

By indigo on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 08:56 am:

the only people around my shit town that pretend to be tortured are the fucking Slipknot and Papa roach fans that sit under the arches outside Woolworths with a big black hoodie and a rucksack covered in tippex, hiding from the sun. They threw oranges at me! (what the hell were they doing with fresh fruit, that's what I'd like to know?) I think it was to do with my shiny green DMs and my Blur tee. weird..... and if any of the boys (they're all about 12) actually wore eyeliner or did anything vaguely different to his mates he would probably get a pelting with oranges.
what did I read in that MSP biog. about Goths? "a collection of individuals" I think. that has to be better than the saddos hanging round town centres with studded chokers on cos its cool today.

By Big Brett on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 07:19 pm:

Yeah. I cant stand goths but the chicks r alright even though most chicks are alright except half the ugly mingers in coping.
If I saw a gothboy at one of my gigs Id stop the gig, walk over to him and fart in his face so hard his eyeliner would run and he'd faint on the floor. Then id start a stampede and everyone would jump on him
HAHAHABOOMBOOM
Watch this, gothboy will probably be Mickys next phase in a bid to try and get a bird HAHAHAHA\

By chut on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 08:09 pm:

Hahahaha, boomboom indeed.

They are obviously little nitwits. I mean, how's an 11 year old Harry Potter look-a-like going to understand the musings of the band Nirvana on his tee shirt? Noone has angst at 11 unless something quite heinious has happened to them. What self-respecting tortured soul manages to find 2-3 hundred (I kid ye not) like-minded chums to lark about with on a Saturday afternoon, like I saw?

In saying that, its obviously a marketing gimmick. Some guy somewhere is reproducing tee-shirts of these piss-poor bands, with crap slogans on 'em and making a flippin' fortune. As if there would be an official Nirvana tee shirt with a big close up of Cobain's head on it.
Haha, I even saw some wannabe with a Wheatus tee shirt once, hehehe. That's like having been into Britpop and sporting a Lightning Seeds tee shirt.

By Rupert Murdock on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 10:07 pm:

Or even worse, Travis! hahahaha

By Raspberry Beret on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 10:12 pm:

What's wrong with the Lightning Seeds? bee-atch

By Raspberry Beret on Monday, June 4, 2001 - 10:13 pm:

Or Travis!?! double bee-atch

By mad lepercaun on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 06:33 am:

you guys need to let people ware what they want to ware just cus they ware certain things dont mean they'r a certain way and did they ever say they were tortured souls im guessing not

By mad lepercaun on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 06:39 am:

just cus they dont ware that coparate gap shit you think shit about them

By Kyle on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 11:17 am:

I think Coping has found the new Nietzsche...

By Karl on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 04:30 pm:

LOL

By Micky {the lad} on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 08:13 pm:

Bloody hell! I just heard that Travis are covering the blur song Sing! B*stards! How dare they, why cant they just write there own stuff wivout covering blur and britney spears songs.
W@nkers

By chut on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 08:14 pm:

mad lepercaun, you need grammar and spelling lessons, m'lad.

By Thomas Williams on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 10:43 pm:

Yeah!

By nat on Saturday, June 9, 2001 - 05:12 pm:

no no, light goth-ishness is nice (see placebo). no extremists, though. extreme anything is garbage.

By indigo on Saturday, June 9, 2001 - 09:46 pm:

excuse me? extreme is the best! I would say that i am an extreme Blur fan!

By Skrooie on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 03:01 pm:

I've seen Placebo, they're jobbies.

I saw them at T in the Park one year. They were fairly average, not bad, but in the NME Tent, quite late on in the evening.

The next time they played T, I didn't watch em, but unfortunately they were beamed out on the massive video screen, which can be seen from virtually anywhere in the park.

Needless to say, they were performing in the middle of the afternoon, on a sunny day, on the open-air main stage.

I think there are certain parallels that can be drawn between that and the 'new goth' wee boy movement.

These wee cunts seem unwilling to buy into the actual goth ethos wholesale. I guess the makeup and the clothes must be fine, as it'll help you attract the young ladies, but the doom and gloom is just too much for them to handle. Ah bless.

Whats the bloody point of it all ? Being an 'individual' because all your friends are doing it ? Give me a break.

If you want to be different, paint yourself blue from head to toe and walk around town naked, holding an orange between your arse cheeks. Or don't, because it's my idea, and you can't be like anyone else, can you ?

And Placebo performed that piss poor piano ballad version of Teenage Angst.

How ironic.

By indigo on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 03:26 pm:

ah well, they did swear after that performance to only play at night. Oh, I just found the best website - in fact, it's so funny, I'm going to cut and paste! I think it captures the true personality of "goth"

the "i'm so goth" list

a bunch of goths were standing outside a club, talking. . . .


I'm so goth, in preschool, the only crayon I used was black.

I'm so goth I dyed my belly button black.

I'm so goth my black is blacker than your black. I call it "black black."

I'm so goth, whenever I walk into a room, all the lights go out.

goth #1: I'm so goth the people in the grocery store have refused to sell me any cereal other than Count Chocula.
goth #2: I'm so goth people ask me to AUTOGRAPH boxes of Count Chocula.

I'm so goth people touch me and they BECOME goth. They say, "Oh no, now I'm goth!"

I'm so goth I wear sunglasses when I open the refrigerator.

I'm so goth I don't paint my nails black--I bash them with a hammer.

I'm so goth I died and didn't notice.

I'm so goth, whenever I knock on somebody's door they give me candy.

I'm so goth, when I stop pouting, people ask, "What are YOU so happy about?"

I'm so goth, when I go outside, the sun sets.

goth #1: I'm so goth the smile muscles in my face have atrophied.
goth #2: I'm so goth the smile muscles in my face never GREW.
goth #3: What's a smile?

I'm so goth, when I was born, the doctor asked me, "What's with the shades?"

I'm so goth I say things like "eternally yours in darkness" and "love and darkness" and "may the eternal darkness of the abyss enrapture and enshroud you in its infernal sickly sweet embrace."

I'm so goth I don't use fabric softener, because I like pain.

I'm so goth I set off airport metal detectors from ten feet away with all my jewelry.

I'm so goth I'm the only REAL goth.

goth #1: I'm so goth a little rain cloud follows me wherever I go and rains on me.
goth #2: I'm so goth I AM the rain cloud.

I'm so goth I'm more goth than anyone else.

goth #1: I'm so goth I got a tattoo of celtic knotwork starting at the top of my head, winding all the way down my body, and trailing five feet behind me on the floor.
goth #2: I'm so goth I AM a tattoo.
goth #3: I'm so goth I pierced all my tattoos.

I'm so goth it takes me an hour and a half to get dressed.

I'm so goth it takes me longer to get UNdressed.

I'm so goth I'm dead.

I'm so goth I think electrical tape is a fashion accessory.

I'm so goth, in preschool, all my drawings were titled, "DEATH."

I'm so goth, in high school, all my papers were titled, "DEATH."

I'm so goth I slather on spf 45 before I open the refrigerator.

I'm so goth I wore corsets in preschool.

I'm so goth little kids are mesmerized by my appearance.

I'm so goth parents leg their kids when they see them mesmerized by my appearance.

I'm so goth I've been banned.

I'm so goth nobody understands me, especially when I say, "the boom boom like shockalocka!!! . . . flibbaflobba!!!"

I'm so goth I don't take my medication, so I can be more goth.

I'm so goth I make flowers wilt.

I'm so goth I like them better that way.

I'm so goth I punched a care bear.

I'm so goth I think saying "oh my goth" is cute.

I'm so goth, when I smile people ask me what's wrong.

I'm so goth little old ladies in walkers cross the street to insult me.

I'm so goth I keep getting hit on by necrophiliacs!

I'm so goth I practice my blank stare in the mirror.

I'm so goth I have carpal tunnel syndrome from constantly putting the back of my hand to my forehead.

I'm so goth that whenever I walk into a room, you hear "Toccata and fugue in D minor."

I'm so goth I have actually seriously uttered the phrase, "the darkest dark of the dark darkness."

goth #1: I'm so goth, when I'm sleeping people come and check my pulse.
goth #2: I'm so goth I don't have a pulse.

I'm so goth I know what pvc stands for.

I'm so goth the people at the suicide hotline have asked me to stop calling.

I'm so goth I'm catholic.

I'm so goth nuns and priests resent me because I look cooler in black than them.

I'm so goth tan lines are a sin.

I'm so goth I was adopted by the Addams family.

I'm so goth people keep asking me if I feel okay.

I'm so goth the dark is scared of ME.

I'm so goth I know how to spell Siouxsie & The Banshees correctly.

I'm so goth I became a fisherman, just so I could use fishnets.

I'm so goth I die die die my hair black.

I'm so goth I'm on the second stage of aloof . . . I'm "bloof."

I'm so goth I sleep UNDER my bed.

I'm so goth, Robert Smith asked ME for my autograph.

I'm so goth I got a 12-pack of absinthe.

I'm so goth I don't eat gummy bears, I eat "glummy bears."

I'm so goth I spend every waking moment, every breath, in contemplation of Goth. The totality of my being is at one with the essence of Goth.

I'm so goth I dot my i's with frowny faces.

I'm so goth I call a smile a "concave frown."

I'm so goth that when I was a toddler, I didn't cry over spilled milk, I MOURNED it.

I'm so goth my skin would catch on fire if it were ever exposed to sunlight.

I'm so goth I make Happy Meals cry.

I'm so goth I spend hours deciding what shade of black to wear.

My grandmother is so goth she uses gothballs.

I'm so goth I shower with bleach instead of soap.

I'm so goth I have a fishnet umbrella.

I'm so goth that bats hang little plastic me's from their ceiling.

goth #1: I'm so goth I changed my name to Mystryss Darque Wintyr Nyght Rayn Ravyn.
goth #2: I'm so goth I don't have a name. I'm just "goth."

I'm so goth all I do is sit around and talk about how goth I am.

I'm so goth I always use the word "goth" instead of "got."

I'm so goth every sentence I say has the word "goth" in it.

By nittaya on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 06:13 pm:

indigo: i meant extreme in the sense that it's at least partially forced (a "fan" fine - fanatic enough, but still balanced)
alright? (mmm... placebo. it's true, though - they're not goth. i'm not either. just that for some reason quite a few of their fans purport to be ...)
have a great day!
love, nat.

By moon bunny on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 07:42 pm:

whats a wee jobbie

By Scamp on Thursday, June 14, 2001 - 02:42 am:

I wish you lot would use a capital letter when you write your names. Nothing personal. Like the song goes, "Rebel Cola! You'll never solo!"

By Butter~Twirré on Thursday, June 14, 2001 - 10:08 am:

In my opinion, gothic GIRLS are complete numbskulls, just as much as the boys. Maybe Mr Skrooie thought it would be unchivalrous to say so. Or maybe he doesn't think so at all. They wouldn't be so annoying if they didn't seem completely oblivious to the fact that people thought it was hip to be a Goth in about 1980. Now, I wasn't even alive then, but I've seen many an early eighties Yank "underground" flick. Both Goth boys and girls always seem to walk past me at nightclubs with eyes that say: "The way I look is SO original: come on! Let your eyes follow me. You know they want to. Not that I'll look back at you, or give any hint of acknowledgement, except for perhaps a barely detectable sneer from somewhere underneath this daring, incredibly UNCONVENTIONAL eyeliner I'm wearing."

That said, I do have at least one good friend who's a Goth. She's intelligent. Yet from my experience with those black clad fuggers, this is very much the exception rather than the rule.

By Anonymous on Friday, June 15, 2001 - 12:33 am:

who say's they are trying to be diferent

By nonny mouse on Friday, June 15, 2001 - 01:41 am:

yoor spellen is difrent