I was thinking about it and it hit me that the net is fantastic. C'mon, think about it. I can sit here and talk to ppl who are everywhere in the world. it's not like a telephone at all, cos it's more ppl at the same chat then it ever could on the phone.
hoooray for the net.

By Joe on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 10:50 am:

Yeah, but conversations take days.

By Lucky on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 07:56 pm:

Naaaahh... Harry Potter's better.

By Lucky on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 07:57 pm:

I don't know why I said that.


Terribly sorry, Caz.

By caz on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 10:55 pm:

ha ha ha

By someone on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:57 am:

to find the one you love over the internet? sick.... just sick

By R~S~P on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 07:35 am:

Yeah, but what are you gonna do about it? Si, back me up here...

By Si on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 10:41 am:

Sick that you can develop an unparalleled degree of openess, being able to overcome traits that hold you back, such as shyness.. and starting a relationship that is purely based on perhaps the most important feature - talking? Developing a fondness for someone because of who they are, instead of what they look like... that's sick?

I think someone sounds a little jealous..

(Was that ok, man?)

By R~S~P on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 12:14 pm:

Yeah, that's grand. Cheers.

By caz on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:04 pm:

agree. when u meat someone outside the net u always get to know what the person look like first and judge ppl after their look.

By Si on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:11 pm:

Not wanting to go completely off on a tangent, but.. I was wondering if you could help me Cazza?
I got this in an email today -

det är jag från romance, du vet, jag som e konstig.... *hihihi*
Jag försöker maila en bild...

Could you translate for me please? : )

By Si on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:14 pm:

I'm guessing 'I would like to romance you. I'm shallow, I'll try to mail a picture...
Hahaha.

I couldn't open it, btw.

By caz on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:20 pm:

sure simon )

*it's me, from Romance. u know, me who is weird....*hihihi*
I'm trying to mail a pic...*

that was what it said.

By caz on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:44 pm:

beck beck beck jag vill se honom näck näck näck
hahahhahahhaha
rotff
hahahahahahahaha

By ThePlot on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 04:44 pm:

To find love on the internet...hmm...
sick?...i'm not so sure to agree with this...neither am i sure to agree with you si, completely...i do get what you are saying - being able to overcome some traits that normally might hold you back to get closer to a person, and to get to know someone only via conversation and not being influenced by what they might look like...granted...but don't you forget some things - like that this actually might limit our ability further to be socially interactive without 'hiding' behind a screen, behind typed words which are being thought about carefully before being send on, not able to realise gestures and facial expressions, and most importantly the look in ppl's eyes that can't really betray us, not like words could...but all this 'connecting via the net' makes us less and less able to understand the features of social interaction in - let me call it - real life situations...just imagining where this all could lead us to...scares me - shouldn't we further our understanding of how to communicate with others in face-to-face encounters as this still causes too many troubles for most of us - to use the internet as a device to circumvent the restrictions we find ourselves confronted with in physical encounters...i'm not so sure if this is the right solution...
and coming back to love...hmm...do tell me what love really means to you...to care about someone, to want to be around them no matter what, to lust after someone, to find a soul mate...all of these...i surely don't know...but - and you might find this offensive now - i believe to fall in love with someone over the internet is actually to fall in love with your phantasy, some dream that is seen as so wonderful that it is aspired to be fulfilled...without having met the person you are in love with, without having spent any time with them (face-to-face), without having laughed and cried and argued with them...basically without having lived with them in the physical reality...love over the internet...is still only a dream, an imagination...living in a phantasy world...where those feelings of content and closeness are being enhanced only by your own cognitive realisation of the 'relationship' and not by the other person...
cynical? maybe...i just don't want to see people lose the ability to interact with others...not via this mean but face-to-face...

By Out Of Order on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 05:24 pm:

CONTROVERSIAL!!!!!!!!!

All points made here are valid. I agree with Si that the internet does create conversation, and thats important. So the conversation is there, but where is the love, For all you know, when you are around your respected net partner, you might see them in there true light to be the most annoying gits in the world! To talk to them without being in front of them takes away the embarassment of what you might say, it takes away everything that you get from being with them. Who knows you might love them and think you have found the right person, but then again you say you love these people off of the net, but you havent been with them 24hrs a day and seen them,as ThePlot said, lusted for them, have the feeling you neeed to be with them at all times!!

Both good points but I am agreeeing with ThePlot on this one. You can call me sad,a cynice or whatever. Though if you are in Love then I hope it will last!And Chris, this does appy to you, but your situation is different, you have actually met the person!!!!

By R~S~P on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 05:54 pm:

True, I never see her on the net any more.

They are the two longest posts I have ever seen on Coping...

By Si on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 08:06 pm:

Fine, fine.. I'll get back to you in 21 weeks then.

By caz on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 08:24 pm:

it took me ages to read all that.

By ThePlot on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 08:58 pm:

don't get me wrong si...good luck..and i hope it will last (just like OutofOrder)...it was more the social interaction inability that the internet seems to further and not really the love thing i was thinking of...but, oh well...

By Out Of Order on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 09:29 pm:

Sme here Si, Im not having a dig at you. I was just stating that when you meet up with the person in real life, things will be completely different to how they are on the net.

Good Luck!

By R~S~P on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 09:36 pm:

Yep, completely true. They tend to be, like, better. And you can kiss them.

By ThePlot on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 10:15 pm:

hehe...aye RSP, indeed....

By R~S~P on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 10:26 pm:

Just while we're on this point, I think this may be very useful for all BC users. Go here: http://www.theonion.com/onion3301/cybercorner.html

And don't be afraid to try it out someday!

By ThePlot on Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 11:00 pm:

thank you for this RSP...i like it...

By Butter~Twirré on Monday, August 14, 2000 - 04:21 am:

My postings seem to mark the kiss of death to every single thread here, but as an example of just how many vibrant, bright, honest, wonderful and life~affirming persona's one can meet over the internet, why not click on ~

http://www.geocities.com/lonely451_2000/me.html
My future husband?

By R~S~P on Monday, August 14, 2000 - 10:42 pm:

Well Ana, you've done it again ;)

Another topic bites the dust. I'm doing my best to keep it alive, but I think it's over...

By th on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 01:27 am:

The bible says true love is when you love someone with all your passion (sex), soul (emotions) and mind (intellect).

I think the internet would be mainly the last one, but prove me wrong.

By Carly on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 03:13 am:

I hate to knock the Bible..... but has anyone here ever actually sat down to read it? I've been doing so over the past week or two.... mainly the old testament bits.... to me Jesus was jsut this guy, ya know? But anyway, i find it hard to put too much faith in a book that contradicts itself on the third page. I mean, seriously, it's a great book, really it is...... but it's contradictary and it's very discriminatory (or however ya spell it). To me, the Bible is a great story and I don't know if I can believe what it has to say about love.... does that mean that men have more love to give then women?? I mean... men could have many wives but we could only have one husband? Are we shallow and unloving as well as impure and unclean?

I know this is a slight tangent, but I felt it needed to be said.


And please... no hate mail or really mean hate replies. I'm not knocking anyone's religion.... I am embracing the Jewish faith and I think the book has some valid points. Just not on love.... it's far too unrealistic. Love is whatever you make it and everyone feels love differently. Many can do without the passion or the mind parts. I'm sure there are others like me out there who are based far more firmly in the soul emotions bit of it


I'm rambling.... Mother of God... can I ever say sanything coherent???

By R~S~P on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 09:52 am:

The Futility of Existence in the Modern World; A poem, by me.

This damn door sticks
This damn door sticks
It sticks no matter what I do
It is marked pull and indeed I am pulling
Perhaps it should be marked push?

By cazza on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 06:51 pm:

nice ur all talking.. keep on talking in a free world..
I wont be on for a week.. some computer probs..
or to say it wuth other words: mum got the phone bill..
cya all next week.
bye

cazza

By th on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 11:36 pm:

My bit from the bible was about the love between a man and a woman in a relationship.

There, ofcourse, are other types of love in the bible including: family love, love between friends and love of strangers, neighbours or people you don't know.

I have read the bible by the way. But I've not studied it. I don't think I've got all the answers.

By R~S~P on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 11:43 pm:

I've got all the answers. 10p each. Ask me any question you like, come on. And a special Coping deal, you can have three for that 27p everyone is talking about.

By God on Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 02:11 pm:

This piece of utter truth is a complete lie.

By Eddy on Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 02:18 pm:

Carly, you say you were reading the Old Testament, but Jesus doesn't make his first appearance until the New Testament.

By R~S~P on Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 04:15 pm:

And she only read the old testament so she could keep away from him. Right? I have all the answers...

By Butter~Twirré on Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 08:19 pm:

Shouldn't this topic be called 'Isn't the internet such a great thing?'
Pedantic of me, I know. But valid.
Nice poem btw, Chris.

By th on Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:19 pm:

Actually, if you look at the second bit of the old testament book Isaiah there is a whole load of stuff about Jesus. But that's besides the point......

By chut on Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 12:28 am:

I'm employing a 'back to basics' approach. Yes, the internet is good.

By R~S~P on Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 12:29 am:

Thanks Ana ;)

By cazza on Friday, August 18, 2000 - 08:19 pm:

I'm back... yay.. I've got the net again...*phew*
though i didn't die withouth it this time lol
smile and be happy cos I am : )

ok ok ok I'm sorry Ana.. I know my english is bad... but hey, I'm working on it...

By R~S~P on Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 01:46 am:

My life it has three corners,
Three corners has my life.
And if it did not have three corners,
It would not be my life.

Surreal, non?

By Carly on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 01:35 am:

i believe i said i was reading 'mainly' the old testament bits...... the new one pisses me off because it's 4 books that say the same thing. there was this guy and he said we should all get along and he got nailed to a tree and then he was alive again then one of his friends stuck his hand inside him and then this guy went up to God and then all his friends had their heads set on fire. and yay if you believe that.... i don't.


mind you..... because i haven't read half the messages, i don't know how the bible became part of a discussion on technology....... i was just responding to the one above my own......


i think the internet is cool, because it enables me to annoy a whole heap of people all over the world from my own computer room without even really trying. plus you can make some sweet friends.... if you don't piss them off first.....

By Eddy on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 02:58 pm:

Actually the New Testament has more than 4 books.

By Carly on Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 01:28 am:

whatever

By Eddy on Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 02:54 pm:

I was just saying.

By ThePlot on Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 07:32 pm:

hehe...

By Carly on Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 02:07 am:

i like internet message boards, coz you can have an argument that would take up ten minutes in life..... but in netland it lasts for days..... heheh

no hard feelings eddy.... let's jsut agree not to discuss the Bible..... i have far too many strange veiws on it :o)

now let's all gather and make macaroni pictures and popcorn necklaces and dried bean paper plate shakers and offer them to Moses as an.... offering..... lol...

By cazza on Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 01:53 pm:

just coz i am not stupid and rude u all slag me. it me who understand what this is about so stop changig subjects from one thing to the next all youze coz people i am real sick of it and leave this alone and just listen to me so i can have the last laugh understanding!!

By the real cazza again and she wont shut up. on Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 08:07 pm:

what the fuck...
who the fuck is that?
I fucking hate when ppl are writing in here, pretending to be ME!
why me? be urself for fuck sake. ur pissing me off. ok?

By porcelainfuckingoceans on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 06:58 pm:

Are you trying to say the word 'fuck' as much as you can in just one sentence?

By cazza on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 07:36 pm:

not really maddy.
I just think that fuck is a great word.

By R~S~P on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 01:01 am:

Why? Who you trying to impress?

By Out Of Order on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 08:09 am:

Wel Im impressed Chris, thinnk what Cazza has done by using the word FUCK, has impressed me so much that I may regress back into themd ays when it was cool to swear!

By Cazza on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 04:38 pm:

ok ok ok I'm so sorry that I by a mistake used the word FUCK too many times. I was just a bit uppset, ok?!

sorry Chris if I have any misspellings in the message. be my guest to correct them.

By Bea on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 07:43 pm:

Hi
I'm back after 2 weeks away... I was in Rome, celebrating World Youth Day, Jubilee 2000, where 2,4 million catholics under 30 from all over the world met with the pope.
I read all you said about the Bible and stuff, and I'll sure answer that, cause lots of you out there need some explanations.
I've read the Bible, and for the record, for me it's not a book you 'read' since the Bible is actually God talking to you. I use the Bible to talk to God, who's my best friend, and I talk to him as I do with a friend (or rather, i tell him lots more cause he knows me better than anybody, even the worse bits, and loves me anyway). Oh by the way, that's praying... this conversations...
God is love, and the Bible is actually a whole series of life sharing experiences leading to a life lived in love.
But it's also the story of a people, in the old testament, and you can't read that literally. I much prefer the new testament, all the things Jesus told and still tells me everyday, though the old testament shows God telling us wonderful things like "even if your mother would forget you, I wouldn't, I love you forever and ever" or "don't be afraid, I chose you and your life specifically, you are precious to me": these aren't just words, God tells each other this every single day!
And the new testament, that you carly say that all say the same about this guy, really makes me, and has made me for years and years, such a better person than i was before... much more open to others, trusting, loving, helpful... Jesus opens my life horizons and tells me I can be whoever i want to be, my life was made to be great. And he tells me that love is the only thing that counts, as he showed in his real life.

Well, this is huge, but I couldn't be quiet reading that... sorry if i've disturbed anyone... you'd wrote that we wouldn't discuss it anymore but i hadn't got the chance to tell my views...

By Out Of Order on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 07:48 pm:

Chris, you usually dont need an invitation to do that.

By Carly on Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 03:46 am:

and *now* can we agree no more Bible talk??? i'm sorry i kept gibbering about it...... it's jsut that after so many years at catholic schools having the book shoved down my throat, i have views on it that i should probably keep to myself. except when Goddamned mormons or JW's pound on my door at 6 in the morning. then i can't be held responsible for what i say.

so, no more Bible talk or else i'm gonna jsut bombard you with *everything* i think about it.... and believe me, y'all don't want that.

By Eddy on Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 03:27 pm:

World Youth Day. What a load of shit. 2.5 million fucking catholics listening to an old bastard mumble a load of shit like "Kids don't wank, don't have sex, don't use contraception etc".

We must remember what the ills the Catholics have given to the world, eg, Spanish Inquisition, poor treatment of Jews.

I am proud to be Protestant.

By cazza on Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 05:36 pm:

lol @ you all.

I think that religon is the most pathetic thing that got invented.
I do respect those who believe in god or satan or another god or whatever. But I don't believe in any crap like that. sorry for saying it's crap, but I think it is.
1. It only makes ppl start war against eachother.
2. The human race had to believe in something so they could blame someone when things/times got wrong, so they started to belive in different things.
3. Religion makes no sense at all. just think about it; there loadsa ppl on earth and they all claim that their *god* is the best/is right about everything/creates the earth. and that makes no fucking sense at all!

um, I have better things to say about this I think. but I just can't say it in english. it'd be too many misspellings by me and too many wrong sentences [sentenses?]...

RELIGON MAKES WAR!

By Out Of Order on Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 05:52 pm:

Though Im not religous at all I think what Cazza has just said to be complete one sided bollocks. Sorry but your opinion is not justified well at all!

By caz on Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 05:58 pm:

well Liam.
thats what u think. and this is what I think. right?
we all have different opinions about things and we all don't think like u do as u might think now and then.
I'm sorry that I *loled* at u all.
but that was what I felt at the moment I wrote it.

By R~S~P on Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 07:54 pm:

Rough estimates by historians put the number of people murdered in the name of Jesus Christ at two billion. This makes Christianity the biggest force of destruction humanity has ever perpetrated on itself. Wonder what Jesus would think about that?

By th on Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 12:40 am:

Cliff Richard once said that because he has sold more records than the beatles, he was bigger than them.

The beatles said they were bigger than jesus.

Ummmmm....

In my opinion, religion is mans attempts at pleasing god, where as christianity is being like jesus (literal translation "little christs"). People get killed when other people think they know better than god.

Sorry for all the times I didn't capitalise god's name but capitalised my I.

By porcelainfuckingoceans on Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 12:55 pm:

And look what happened. Cazza and Liam started discussing opinions and claiming that they're own opinions are the right ones...

By Out Of Order on Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 02:00 pm:

Maddy did you read what I wrote, I never said I was right!!!! Its an opinion but all I said was though Cazza may have an opinion here, she doesnt seem to back it up very well!!!!

By porcelainfuckingoceans on Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:11 pm:

I know.

By caz on Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 07:51 pm:

because I cant back it up very well in engish.

By Out Of Order on Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:30 pm:

Im smeeling somthing, (sniff sniff)smells like bullshit!!

CAN YA SMELLLLL LA LA LA LA The bullshit Cazza is Talking

(Raises Eyebrow)

By Sammie on Monday, August 28, 2000 - 02:49 am:

i am concerned about people who wear sunglasses on the back of their heads.....what is the deal with this?

By caz on Monday, August 28, 2000 - 05:40 pm:

please shut up Liam.
your nonsens makes me want to throw up.

By Carly on Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 12:56 am:

roger taylor of Queen said it best i think

'religion tends to fuck people up'

all bow down to the almighty blond God of percussion.......

By Bea on Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 11:20 am:

well Carly, that may have worked for him...
for me, it has made me a much better person.

Oh, not rules, and obligations, and 'you must do this, you musn't do that' and that awful stuff that people mistake for religion...

By local_scapegoat on Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 06:22 pm:

Internet? ..such a great thing?
are you out of your practically non existing mind?!

I totally blame the net for my complete lack of life for the moment...

By Carly on Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:59 am:

i think what mr taylor meant was that because there are so many religions and everyone thinks their's is the right one, it fucks up the ability to do anything. and i agree with cazza... religion makes war.

but what do i know.... it's not like i actually sit down and study all these things.... oh wait a minute... i do.......


i'm not having a go at anyone, btw...... i'm in a slighty bad mood today.... lack of sleep and all that.... :þ

By caz on Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 07:07 am:

right. I agree with u carly, that everyone thinks that their religion is the *right* one....
um.

By local scapegoat on Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 06:02 pm:

religions don't make wars, people do..

if they were no religions they'd find some other reason to fight...

like.. proticting the american life style or similar things..

religions don't make war, the human nature does..

we just gotta prove that our way of living/thinking is the best and is very seldom open minded enough to realise that there's other opinions that just might be worth thinking about..

[hmm.. isn't it pretty lazy to blame wars on the human nature?..]

By Sean on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 12:21 pm:

Sorry people i haven't bothered reading the other posts...i just came across Bea's comment on the interesting subject of the bible and thought "ERRGGHH....KKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKGHHHHHH"...(REALLY I DID!) you seem to be deluded when it comes to talking to God! I have also read the Bible, and it is indeed a good peice of literature (for the time it was written) but, alas, it is full of contradictions as Carly pointed out. The beginning has no substance and the end is predictable. Like all Tragic love stories the middle is confusing and annoying. Pleade dont't even BOTHER with the hate mail and the "ooh, you just hate religion" crap...If anything, i KNOW about religion and am not arguing the merits of it...i am simply discussing the importance of a book written by some dubious characters. Who wrote revelations???

By Anonymous on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 01:29 pm:

John. It says at the begining

By Bea on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 04:36 pm:

Sean, I was just talking about my experience... I didn't mean to say it's the same for everybody, far from it... For me, it's like that.
And you can't read it whole, in one go!

By sean on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 11:21 pm:

Ah but who is John...he is yet another DUBIOUS biblical writer/character....although having said this, he probably wrote the MOST interesting part of the bible. It's a shame it has so many moralistic undertones! Bea: i read it in the space of a few days...and have read it in bits before that...to read it one go would probably diminish the books weak story and make it more of a transparent collection of mismatched stories all strugelling to put across a vague message, already implanted in your head by the unsubtle paternalistic undertones, and causing it to give you a message that doesn't hold up in the light. I only speak for myself.
Thus the reading of the bible over the cause of a lifetime could have dramatic effects i would never like to expereince, and therefore i choose to read it as it is...Don't get me wrong - I HAVE AN OPEN MIND- and i love the obscure writers that write about spiritual "deep" things...but , alas, to say The Bible is one of these is a lie...which in the eyes of God is wrong...hahaha

By Thomas Williams on Friday, October 27, 2000 - 09:36 pm:

Yeah!